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Greatest Remark On Tesla Demand Challenges I’ve Seen


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I don’t typically see a standalone tweet and suppose, “Wow, that’s a superb lengthy remark and evaluation — that might be an article.” Nevertheless, this morning, I did. The commentary comes from a longtime Tesla follower, fan, and shareholder. Nevertheless, he’s an open minded and important one when want be. Actually, amongst individuals who solely tweet about Tesla, he appears to be probably the most balanced in optimistic and unfavorable (congratulatory and important) commentary on the corporate and on Elon Musk. The individual I’m referring to goes by the identify James Cat (@TSLAFanMtl) on Twitter. The next is his tweet on Tesla demand progress and the struggles it faces:


“Seen some dialogue currently about Elon’s impression on Tesla demand and subsequent impression on worth and revenue.

“Right here is my take.

“All of these items may be very arduous to isolate and quantify in a silo. We do have some knowledge that exhibits Tesla model fairness has taken successful since Twitter. Imo this can be a issue, however not THE issue, that explains it. And it’s not rates of interest, both. Rates of interest impacts all manufacturers equally and but regardless of the rate of interest setting, each market volumes and costs are up. Shoppers have broadly accepted to pay extra — simply not for Teslas.

“So as of lowering significance, right here is why I believe Tesla has needed to lower costs so aggressively relative to the market:

“1. Tesla drastically expanded its provide in 2023.

“Tesla’s valuation and mission relies on progress. It’s tougher to develop from a base of 1.3M than from a base of 0.9M with the identical car lineup. Until demand elevated organically comparatively to 2022 ranges, Tesla would want to lower worth to maneuver that additional quantity. Demand has not elevated organically nor has it elevated sufficient to offset the necessity to discount.

“That is particularly vital as a result of Berlin and Austin are working properly below capability. Factories working below capability generate extreme prices.

“2. EV early adopters have been satiated.

“The shoppers that haven’t but made the soar to EVs have hesitations. They’re involved about vary, charging and are below the phantasm that EVs are ‘costly.’ They don’t know what tax credit/federal/state incentives exist to assist decrease the fee. They don’t perceive the price of possession idea.

“All of this may be mounted with an aggressive, broad-based promoting marketing campaign and PR marketing campaign — for my part — as a result of none of these issues are precise issues as soon as folks perceive the problems.

“3. Oblique competitors…in China.

“Tesla has no direct competitors for 3/Y. Anyplace. It’s not even shut. However…Tesla does have EV competitors in China each above and under the three/Y worth level. This has induced a little bit of a squeeze on 3/Y in China — forcing worth down a bit there — but in addition, importantly, it has elevated Tesla’s must export. This, in flip, has elevated provide in different components of the world — and we return to level #1 — an excessive amount of provide relative to demand.

“4. And eventually, Elon has alienated a big a part of Tesla’s core demographic — educated, left-of-centre progressives. Say what you need about how folks shouldnt base their buying selections on firm CEOs. Superb. Elon is greater than Tesla’s CEO; he’s additionally the face of the model. Prefer it or not, his model and Tesla’s model are linked, for higher or worse. The Twitter acquisition and Elon’s use of it since has been the worst factor to occur to Tesla’s model…ever. There are a variety of information factors that present this and for those who’ve been following me for some time, you’ll have seen these by now.

“In order that’s the place we stand with Tesla and that has defined what occurred in 2023. What about 2024? I’m glad you requested. I’m beginning to work on a 2024 forecast and can share in due time.”


There was one reply that caught my consideration as properly, together with his response to the reply. Farzad responded: “Nice write up. My level with 4 is that although that is true, we aren’t accounting for the other finish of the spectrum, even when these people are typically much less prosperous and extra conservative of their purchases. These people are actually paying consideration that historically by no means have been.

“There’s additionally the silent majority that nobody is speaking about, which drove quantity in 2023, and has induced the model to be probably the most searched in 2023 globally and within the US after being nowhere to be discovered. Left wing progressives being offended at Elon IMO just isn’t sufficient of a variable to represent ‘Elon being lively on X is unhealthy’. Giving Tesla’s core historic demographic an excessive amount of of a weight fully ignores the actual fact Tesla’s long run demographic is 80% of the worldwide inhabitants that’s in search of a transportation system.”

And right here is the response to that from James: “There have been a number of studies which have confirmed that the features Tesla has made on the proper haven’t offset the losses on the left. And different studies that confirmed that of all manufacturers, Tesla’s buyer base was the furthest left. That is with out query a internet loss. And sadly it was all pointless.”

It’s an fascinating dialogue, and one which has been happening for a very long time. I recognize folks like James pushing by means of the tribal mud to have actual conversations about these items. Sadly, I don’t suppose the core issues are going away anytime quickly and I believe they may stay main components of concern for Tesla so far as the attention can see. However that’s the place we’re.

Chime in with your personal ideas down within the feedback.


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