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In latest months I’ve returned to the overlapping topics of geoengineering and carbon seize, each of which I’d principally happy myself about years in the past. Each, nonetheless, are re-ascending the hype scale and no less than for features of geoengineering, my curiosity was unhappy.

The newest information was that Germany’s vice chancellor, Robert Habeck, has publicly backed a big carbon seize and sequestration plan as precise decarbonization of the financial system will not be on monitor for targets. What’s notable about that is that he’s a German Inexperienced Get together politician who can be the financial system and local weather minister. That’s a number of fascinating hats for one individual to put on. He asserts that the know-how is now mature and protected in a good quantity of divergence from empirical actuality.

One assumes nobody has bothered to inform him about Satartia, Mississippi’s, travails a small handful of years in the past. That tiny city of 41 in a county with a inhabitants density orders of magnitude smaller than any populated a part of Europe, noticed a carbon dioxide pipeline break outdoors of city, 1.6 kilometers away, in truth. The liquid carbon dioxide expanded by 590 instances, and because it was heavier than the air we breathe, it rolled downhill into city. It rendered many individuals unconscious and in convulsions earlier than it subtle into the ambiance. Dozens have been handled in hospital, from a city that solely had 41 inhabitants. A few hundred individuals from the encircling space have been evacuated. Emergency automobiles with inside combustion engines didn’t work. Hours later, harmful ranges of carbon dioxide nonetheless remained in lots of houses and declivities.

Overlay of proposed European CO2 pipelines and terminals on top of a map of European population density by author
Overlay of proposed European CO2 pipelines and terminals on high of a map of European inhabitants density by creator

Not too long ago, I reviewed an virtually hundred-page report assessing European carbon dioxide pipelines, sinks, and terminals choices. The report stated completely nothing about security, well being dangers, or what may occur if a carbon dioxide pipeline burst. Apparently it’s important to know fundamental chemistry and biology to comprehend that carbon dioxide blankets the bottom, swimming pools in low-lying areas and houses, and asphyxiates individuals and animals. It’s actually fundamental chemistry and biology, by the way in which.

Throughout that effort I created the graphic above, overlaying one of many proposed units of carbon dioxide motion infrastructure over a inhabitants density map of Europe. Discover how all of these pipelines appear to run by way of the extra closely populated components of Europe? Do not forget that Satartia barely exists but had dozens unconscious and hospitalized? Seeing an issue right here?

Additionally just lately I used to be requested my opinion of placing milk of magnesia, aka magnesium hydroxide, into sea water to boost the ocean’s means to soak up extra carbon dioxide. I used to be extra conscious of the implications for shellfish of elevated carbon dioxide within the ambiance being absorbed by the oceans, that it was hindering formation of crustacean and mollusk shells.

Ocean acidification implications for shellfish diagram courtesy of US NOAA
Ocean acidification implications for shellfish, diagram courtesy of US NOAA

I knew that I needed to return to this after geoengineering years in the past, discovering basically that if we had to make use of photo voltaic geoengineering, that ugly bandaid that staunched a wound at the same time as extra wounds have been inflicted, we’d have misplaced, however that ocean geoengineering may be mandatory.

And so with the query I returned to the issue and began to each perceive the issue and the proposed options higher. Naturally, I wrote about it. Each molecule of carbon dioxide that enters the oceans takes one other molecule of carbon certain right into a carbonate ion out of the attain of shellfish by shifting the carbon in each the carbon dioxide and the carbonate ion into two carbonate ions. And the extra carbon dioxide that entered the water, the much less carbon dioxide could possibly be absorbed by the water because it alkalinized. That’s a two-edged sword.

The milk of magnesium individuals have been making an attempt to dam the method by forming magnesium carbonate as an alternative, making the ocean a bit extra alkaline and leaving extra carbon atoms for the shellfish. That will allow the ocean to soak up extra carbon dioxide, requiring extra magnesium hydroxide, however it could, chemically, work. Sadly milk of magnesium at industrial scales prices a whole bunch of {dollars} per ton and has a carbon debt for manufacturing greater than the additional carbon dioxide drawdown. Not likely an answer and the agency that received the Musk et al. Carbon Drawdown X Prize with its two pilot vegetation is making an attempt desperately to pivot to one thing that truly makes any sense, though they actually don’t need to admit it.

What are they pivoting to? Electrochemical separation of extremely alkaline mining slag. , the stuff that’s stuffed with a stew of poisonous chemical substances that we actually attempt to stop getting again into the ecosystem. If they may really do what they’re asserting they are going to be capable of do, they’d be vastly higher off promoting the merchandise, as they’re extremely precious and presently have massive carbon money owed of their very own. I’m skeptical.

This isn’t to solid doubt on electrochemistry basically, by the way in which. It’s an astounding know-how and all of these superb batteries powering our electrical automobiles, iPhones, and watches depend upon it, as does making aluminum and even plating metals. I used to be a strategic advisor to an electrochemistry stream battery agency for a few years and nonetheless have excessive hopes for them.

However lots of people are asserting magical electrochemical options from stews of advanced molecules and there are a number of dangers inherent within the area.



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Enter Captura, a California carbon seize agency based out of the California Institute of Know-how, one which has managed to elevate over $33 million {dollars} for its different strategy to enhancing oceanic carbon dioxide uptake. What’s the answer? Pump tons and plenty of sea water out of the ocean into their know-how. Separate a bit out then cut up it into extra and fewer acidic parts with an electrodialysis system with their proprietary membrane in it. Combine the acidic bit again into the remainder of the water. That reacts with bicarbonate ions — my assumption as they’re 90% of the carbon within the oceans — and turns them into carbon dioxide. Filter the carbon dioxide out. Add the much less acidic portion of water again in to return the alkalinity to regular sea water. Return the ocean water to the ocean. Discover one thing to do with the carbon dioxide.

Will this work? After all, up to some extent. It’s pretty fundamental electrochemistry engaged on effectively understood natural chemical substances. I’m certain within the lab with biocarbonate ions in brine it really works spectacularly. Sadly, the lab will not be the actual world, and I see many purple flags that make me suppose this received’t work.

First off, sea water is stuffed with life, salts, and minerals, and people issues cling to every thing they contact. That’s why ship defouling is such an issue. Fouling of a Captura plant is an enormous concern. Desalination vegetation clearly handle this, however they’re working to take away every thing besides water, not a tiny share of particular molecules. The additional issues are sometimes greater than CO2 molecules as effectively, making the filters difficult. CO2 can sit in dissolved suspension with out effervescent to the floor instantly. That’s actually viable in a easy brine with carbonate ions, however harder in actual sea water with extremely variable constituents.

The electrodialysis system is regarding on this regard because it has a proprietary membrane know-how. Have you learnt what the most costly a part of a number of batteries is by mass? The membrane. Ultrathin, ultratough membranes that permit ions to move by way of them whereas blocking every thing else are costly. They have a tendency to love very pure issues on both aspect of them, which is okay inside sealed batteries, however is a persistent drawback for each electrolyzers and gas cells the place water, air, and hydrogen should be very clear and inside exact parameters.

Sea water is rather a lot much less pure than contemporary water. These membranes are going to be taking a beating they usually aren’t commoditized membranes, they’re lab membranes, it seems. Which means that they will be far more costly and far more difficult to scale as much as any affordable measurement. Even then, they’ll require common alternative.

Desalination makes financial sense the place 2.5x the price of water is required as a result of 95% of what passes by way of the system is the product, contemporary water, and solely about 5% is waste that’s returned to the ocean. Even there, very salty brine pouring again into the ocean is an enormous concern that have to be managed rigorously.

However on this case, the carbon content material of the ocean is decrease than the carbon content material of ambiance, underneath 300 components per million or 0.03% as I perceive it. Which means they must pump about 3,333 tons of seawater, i.e. 3,333 cubic meters, to get a ton of CO2. So long as you aren’t shifting the water too far uphill, the power necessities aren’t absurd, however to get a barely materials million tons of carbon dioxide they’d have to maneuver 3.3 billion tons of water.

For context, that’s 22 days of all the United States’ freshwater withdrawals from the Nice Lakes. That’s about 3.5 instances as a lot water because the Grand Coulee Dam can maintain when it’s full. That will require shifting 9 million tons of water each day. That’s about 2,000 Olympic swimming swimming pools stuffed with water each day. That’s a number of water.

Even assuming that the water is just being raised 5 meters from ocean stage to move by way of the system, that’s a number of mass being moved up 5 meters. My serviette math means that this might take about 45 GWh a 12 months. That’s sufficient to energy about 4 million houses for a 12 months. To extract one million tons of carbon dioxide from the ambiance.

Why not simply use the renewable electrical energy to energy houses, warmth pumps, automobiles, and industrial warmth, eliminating much more emissions as an alternative? On the US common grid electrical energy carbon depth of about 387 kg CO2e/MWh — hey, enjoyable truth, China’s electrical energy grid carbon depth has plummeted to solely 550 kg CO2e/MWh and is quickly declining additional — utilizing the electrical energy immediately would keep away from over 17 million tons of carbon dioxide or equal. As all the time with capturing diffuse quantities of carbon dioxide out of the ambiance or oceans after we’ve stupidly launched it, reversing entropy is rather a lot much less environment friendly than avoiding it.

And that’s with a system that approaches 100% effectivity in turning bicarbonate ions into carbon dioxide and capturing it. The probably effectivity might be a lot decrease. I’d be stunned in the event that they made it to 50%, so 34 instances worse than simply utilizing the low-carbon electrical energy. However let’s faux it’s 100% environment friendly.

Then there’s the issue of diffusion, the method by which issues unfold out pretty evenly by way of gases and liquids. Water strikes and issues diffuse in it, however extra slowly than in air. Seize can be eradicating bicarbonates regionally. That signifies that they’re reducing the components per million regionally and getting diminishing returns. There might be some optimum level, but it surely’s going to be probably beneath 200 ppm, so name it 5,000 cubic meters of water to get a ton of CO2. Most likely they must limit their websites to locations the place there are lateral currents alway bringing new sea water into the system.

Then there’s that massive drawback of ocean acidification making carbon atoms inaccessible to shellfish, to allow them to’t kind their shells. Extra CO2 uptake does that as famous above, however so does the Captura course of it seems. Clearly, environmental assessments are going to be involved about elimination of shellfish mineral necessities. Received a lifeless ocean someplace with out shellfish? So along with locations with common lateral currents, the websites additionally should haven’t any important populations of crustaceans or mollusks down-current.

Lastly, there’s the massive query of what they’re going to do with the carbon dioxide. Sequestration websites aren’t magically beside websites that occur to have lateral currents, very low shellfish concentrations, and good renewable connections. CO2 pipelines have their very own issues, as I identified earlier. Carbon dioxide pipelines are going to depart this million tons per 12 months website to go someplace and the security necessities means it must be mainly straight into the water to offshore sequestration websites.

So, the know-how can solely be sited beside the ocean on comparatively low shorelines the place there are robust lateral currents to maintain bringing bicarbonate ion-rich ocean water into the intakes the place there are few shellfish down-current the place there’s a number of renewable electrical energy to run the method and there are good carbon sequestration websites fairly near shore.

And even then it’s going to waste a number of low carbon electrical energy that would have been stopping much more carbon emissions. Personally, I’m utterly unsurprised that this serviette math reveals that Captura’s course of is totally non-viable in comparison with alternate options till the remainder of the world’s financial system is approaching 100% carbon impartial. As I stated about Carbon Engineering, nice, you’ve proved it really works, now put it on the shelf till after 2050.


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